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Interesting Objects listed by size

Here is a list of 313 interesting extended objects. They are listed by size in order to emphasize the idea that when imaging extended objects is is necessary to try to get a significant sized image on the film or chip so as to make good use of the resolving power of the film or imager.  The only way to essentially "fill the chip" with the image is to use the proper focal length telescope.  The proper focal length can be obtained by choosing the telescope focal length and augmenting it with suitable focal reducers.    The full list is interrupted in to groups with headings which give some common optical choices that "fill the chip."
(At the very end of the list is a short discussion of what I have used as a criterion for "filling the chip.")

The first set of objects is very small, up to about 1 by 1.5 arc minutes.  With a 3000 mm telescope (12" f10) this yields a largest image size at the chip of only 0.9 mm (90 pixels).   This is not a very high resolution situation but probably all that can be expected.   The atmospheric resolution, under good seeing conditions, is only about 1 arc second which is about one pixel with this focal length.  There are 28 objects in this category including 4 M objects.  While it is difficult to get great detail in these objects with a  telescope of 3000 mm focal length, It would probably be wise to use a 2X focal extender to get a bigger image on the chip.  These objects are tiny and quite faint.  It seems amazing that Messier was able to see the four on this list.  Note that all of the planets are in this range or much smaller than the smallest of these objects.  Jupiter, the largest is about 40 arc seconds (0.7 arc minutes), Saturn about 20 to 30, Venus 10 to 60 and the rest very small.  To image such small objects, projection imaging or a 3X to 5X focal extender is usually used to get a larger image.  With very dim objects, such as those listed here, there is not enough light to use projection imaging.  There is no substitute for a large, long focal length telescope for imaging these tiny, dim objects.

NUMBER      Messier RA         DEC       SIZE       MAG     TYPE
UGC 7772    M 040   12 22.4    58 05                9.0     Double Star
NGC 1535            04 14.4   -12 44     0.3x0.3    9.0     Planetary Nebula
NGC 6210            16 44.6    23 47     0.3x0.3    9.7     Planetary Nebula
NGC 7027            21 07.0    42 14     0.3x0.2    9.0     Planetary Nebula
NGC 6826            19 44.7    50 31     0.4x0.4    8.8     Planetary Nebula
NGC 7009            21 04.1   -11 22     0.4x0.4    8.0     Planetary Nebula
NGC 6543            17 58.8    66 38     0.4x0.3    8.6     Planetary Nebula
NGC 7662            23 25.9    42 33     0.5x0.5    8.5     Planetary Nebula
NGC 4782            12 54.6   -12 35     0.5x0.5    12.9    Elliptical Galaxy 0
NGC 4783            12 54.6   -12 34     0.5x0.5    12.9    Elliptical Galaxy 0
NGC 2392            07 29.2    20 55     0.7x0.7    8.3     Planetary Nebula
NGC 3242            10 24.8   -18 38     0.7x0.7    8.9     Planetary Nebula
NGC 4476            12 30.0    12 20     0.7x0.4    13.3    Elliptical Galaxy 4
NGC 0040            00 12.9    72 32     1.0x0.7    10.5    Planetary Nebula
NGC 4889            13 00.1    27 59     1.0x0.6    13.2    Elliptical Galaxy 4
NGC 6729            19 01.8   -36 58     1.0x1.0    ?       Nebula
NGC 6994    M 073   20 58.9   -12 39     1.0x1.0    10.0    Open Cluster
NGC 7006            21 01.4    16 12     1.0x1.0    11.5    Globular Cluster
NGC 0604            01 34.5    30 46     1.0x1.0    ?       Nebula
NGC 2346            07 09.3    00 49     1.0x0.9    10.0    Planetary Nebula
NGC 4413            12 26.5    12 36     1.1x0.7    13.2    Barred Spiral a
NGC 2438            07 41.9   -14 43     1.1x1.1    11.0    Planetary Nebula
NGC 0278            00 52.0    47 34     1.2x1.2    11.6    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 6720    M 057   18 53.6    33 02     1.3x1.0    9.0     Planetary Nebula
NGC 5367            13 57.7   -39 59     1.3x1.0    10.0    Nebula
NGC 4435            12 27.7    13 04     1.4x0.9    11.8    Elliptical Galaxy 4
NGC 0650-1  M 076   01 41.9    51 34     1.5x0.7    10.0    Planetary Nebula
NGC 4459            12 29.0    13 58     1.5x1.0    11.7    Spiral Galaxy 0
 

The next batch of objects goes up to about 3  arc minutes.  Even these objects create quite a small image with the 3000 mm telescope.  But these images are up to 200 pixels in size. This is a good sized image on an ST-7 size chip which is about 500 by 750 pixels.  Pictures taken with this resolution are nice to look at but but still do not use up the chip area available and are nowhere near photographic quality.  There are 39 objects in this group and only 5 are M objects.

NGC 4479            12 30.3    13 35     1.5x1.5    12.5    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 4105            12 06.7   -29 47     1.5x1.5    12.0    Elliptical Galaxy 3
NGC 4478            12 30.3    12 19     1.0x1.8    12.4    Elliptical Galaxy 1
NGC 2782            09 14.1    40 07     1.8x1.6    12.4    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 4106            12 06.8   -29 48     1.0x1.8    12.0    Elliptical Galaxy 2
NGC 2732            09 13.4    79 11     1.8x0.8    11.9    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4387            12 25.7    12 49     1.9x1.1    12.0    Elliptical Galaxy 5
NGC 4458            12 29.0    13 15     1.9x1.8    12.0    Elliptical Galaxy 0
NGC 2261            06 39.1    08 43     2.0x2.0    10.0    Nebula
NGC 2419            07 38.2    38 53     2.0x2.0    11.0    Globular Cluster
NGC 4374    M 084   12 25.1    12 53     2.0x1.8    10.5    Elliptical Galaxy 1
NGC 4402            12 26.1    13 07     2.0x0.8    13.0    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 4425            12 27.2    12 44     2.0x0.5    12.9    Spiral Galaxy 0
NGC 4461            12 29.1    13 11     2.0x1.0    12.2    Spiral Galaxy 0
NGC 4473            12 29.8    13 25     2.0x1.0    11.3    Elliptical Galaxy 4
NGC 4621    M 059   12 42.0    11 39     2.0x1.5    11.0    Elliptical Galaxy 3
NGC 6302            17 13.9   -37 07     2.0x1.0    ?       Nebula
NGC 5195            13 30.0    47 16     2.0x1.5    11.0    Peculiar Galaxy
NGC 1999            05 36.5   -06 43     2.0x2.0    9.0     Nebula
NGC 6638            18 31.0   -25 30     2.0x2.0    9.5     Globular Cluster
NGC 6642            18 31.8   -23 29     2.0x2.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6652            18 35.8   -33 00     2.0x2.0    8.5     Globular Cluster
NGC 6934            20 34.1    07 24     2.0x2.0    9.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6569            18 13.7   -31 49     2.0x2.0    10.0    Globular Cluster
NGC 7335            22 37.3    34 27     1.7x0.8    14.7    Galaxy so
NGC 3379    M 105   10 47.8    12 35     2.1x2.0    10.6    Elliptical Galaxy 1
NGC 3389            10 48.4    12 32     2.2x1.0    12.2    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4567            12 36.5    11 15     2.4x1.6    12.0    Elliptical Galaxy s1
NGC 5908            15 16.7    55 25     2.4x0.4    13.0    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 1068    M 077   02 42.7   -00 01     2.5x1.7    10.0    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 3587    M 097   11 14.9    55 02     2.5x2.5    11.0    Planetary Nebula
NGC 4038            12 01.9   -18 52     2.5x2.5    11.0    Peculiar
NGC 4039            12 01.9   -18 53     2.5x2.0    12.0    Peculiar
NGC 4697            12 48.6   -05 48     2.5x1.3    10.5    Elliptical Galaxy 3
NGC 2207            06 16.4   -21 22     2.5x1.5    12.3    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 3077            10 03.4    68 44     2.6x1.9    11.0    Elliptical Galaxy 2
NGC 1275            03 19.8    41 31     2.6x1.0    11.6    Syfert Galaxy
NGC 2748            09 13.7    76 29     2.8x1.1    11.7    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 3513            11 03.8   -23 15     2.9x2.3    11.5    Spiral Galaxy c
 

The next group of objects is up to 3.6 arc minutes in size. This corresponds to an image of  almost 400 pixels size.  These objects really fill the ST-7 chip using the full focal length of the 12" f10.  Even the 10" f10 gives a reasonable image size and might be considered for imaging these objects.  There are 21 objects in the group but only 8 of them M objects.

NGC 4382    M 085   12 25.3    18 11     3.0X2.0    10.5    Spiral Galaxy 0
NGC 4406    M 086   12 26.2    12 56     3.0X2.8    10.5    Elliptical Galaxy 3
NGC 4486    M 087   12 30.8    12 23     3.0x3.0    8.6     Elliptical Galaxy 1
NGC 4649    M 060   12 43.6    11 33     3.0x2.5    10.0    Elliptical Galaxy 1
NGC 6171    M 107   16 32.5   -13 03     3.0x3.0    8.1     Globular Cluster
NGC 6864    M 075   20 06.1   -21 55     3.0x3.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6981    M 072   20 53.5   -12 33     3.0x3.0    8.6     Globular Cluster
NGC 3626            11 20.1    18 21     3.0x2.0    10.9    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 5824            15 04.0   -33 05     3.0x3.0    9.5     Globular Cluster
NGC 6441            17 50.2   -37 03     3.0x3.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6624            18 23.7   -30 22     3.0x3.0    8.5     Open Cluster
NGC 6712            18 53.0   -08 43     3.0x3.0    9.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 7339            22 37.8    23 47     3.0x0.9    12.1    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 5248            13 37.6    08 53     3.2x1.4    11.0    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4298            12 21.5    14 36     3.2x1.9    11.4    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4710            12 49.6    15 10     3.4x0.5    12.0    Spiral Galaxy 0
NGC 0185            00 38.5    48 21     3.5x2.8    11.8    Elliptical galaxy 1
NGC 7479            23 04.9    12 19     3.2x3.5    11.8    Barred Galaxy b
NGC 6229            16 47.0    47 32     3.5x3.5    8.9     Globular Cluster
NGC 0221    M 032   00 42.7    40 52     3.6x3.1    9.5     Elliptical galaxy 2
NGC 5694            14 39.6   -26 32     3.6x3.6    10.2    Globular Cluster
 

The next group of objects goes up in size to 5.5 arc minutes.  Now the largest of these images is a full 480 pixels in size and will fill the ST-7 chip almost completely.  These are the largest size objects that can be imaged and still fit fully on the ST-7 chip when using the 12" f10.  Even then a focal reducer might be considered to trade image size for telescope speed and thus shorter exposure times. An ST-8 moght be considered for these objects as well.   The objects also give a nice sized image with the 10" f10.  Even the 10" f6.3 will give up to a 200 pixel image.  There are 37 objects in this group with 13 of them being M objects.

NGC 0246            00 47.1   -11 53     4.0x2.5    8.5     Planetary Nebula
NGC 3115            10 05.3   -07 43     4.0x1.0    10.0    Elliptical Galaxy 7
NGC 3351    M 095   10 43.9    11 42     4.0x3.0    11.0    Barred Spiral c
NGC 3384            10 48.3    12 38     4.0x2.0    11.0    Elliptical Galaxy 7
NGC 4438            12 27.8    13 00     4.0x1.5    11.0    Spiral Galaxy a
NGC 4472    M 049   12 29.8    07 59     4.0x3.4    10.1    Elliptical Galaxy 3
NGC 4477            12 30.0    13 38     4.0x3.5    10.4    Barred Spiral a
NGC 4579    M 058   12 37.6    11 48     4.0x3.5    10.5    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 6333    M 009   17 19.1   -18 31     4.0x4.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6637    M 069   18 31.4   -32 21     4.0x4.0    7.5     Globular Cluster
NGC 6681    M 070   18 43.3   -32 18     4.0x4.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 0559            01 29.5    63 18     4.0x4.0    9.5     Open Cluster
NGC 7235            22 12.5    57 15     4.0x4.0    9.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6603            18 18.4   -18 26     4.0x4.0    11.4    Open Cluster
NGC 4449            12 28.2    44 05     4.2x3.0    10.5    Irregular Galaxy
NGC 7332            22 37.4    23 47     4.2x1.3    11.0    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4111            12 07.1    43 04     4.4x0.9    10.7    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4254    M 099   12 18.8    14 25     4.5X4.0    10.4    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 2775            09 10.3    07 02     4.5x3.0    10.3    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 4302            12 21.7    14 36     4.5x0.5    12.9    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 5005            13 10.8    37 03     4.7x1.6    10.8    Spiral Galaxy b
IC 2233             08 14.2    45 44     4.7x0.6    13.0    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 1952    M 001   05 34.5    22 01     5.0x3.0    9.0     Nebula
NGC 4388            12 25.8    12 39     5.0x1.0    12.0    Barred Spiral b
NGC 4736    M 094   12 51.0    41 07     5.0x3.5    8.9     Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 6779    M 056   19 16.5    30 10     5.0x5.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 2129            06 01.1    23 18     5.0x5.0    7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 5466            14 05.4    28 32     5.0x5.0    9.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 5986            15 46.1   -37 46     5.0x5.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6520            18 03.5   -27 54     5.0x5.0    9.0     Open Cluster
NGC 0779            01 59.7   -05 57     3.0x5.0    11.8    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 4490            12 30.7    41 38     5.0x2.0    10.1    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4321    M 100   12 22.9    15 49     5.2x5.0    10.4    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 5866/79 M 102?  15 06.5    55 45     5.2x2.3    10.0    Elliptical Galaxy
NGC 4548    M 091   12 35.5    43 09     5.4x4.4    10.2    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 7814            00 03.3    16 09     1.5x5.5    11      Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 3511            11 03.4   -23 05     5.5x1.0    11.0    Spiral Galaxy c
 

The next group of objects goes up to 9.9 arc minutes in size.  This is 870 pixels with the 12" f10.  Clearly these objects give images that no longer fit on the ST-7 chip. At this point it is good to consider the ST-8 which has a chip of twice the size and four times the area.  The 12" f10 must be used with a focal reduce of at least 0.63 strength on the ST-7.  The 10" f10 now gives the excellent sized images up to 580 pixels.  But the 10" f6.3 looks like a good choice as well, giving images up to about 360 pixels.  This is a very large group of 67 objects with no less than 35 M objects.  With the 10" f 6.3 scope and the ST-8 a very comfortable match is had.

NGC 4303    M 061   12 22.0    04 28     5.7x5.5    10.2    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4501    M 088   12 32.0    14 25     5.7x2.5    10.5    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 6934            20 34.2    07 24     5.9x5.9    8.9     Globular Cluster
NGC 5377            13 56.3    47 12     3.0x6.0    12.0    Spiral Nebula a
NGC 2362            07 18.7   -24 57     6.0x6.0    4.0     Open Cluster
NGC 3368    M 096   10 46.8    11 49     6.0x4.0    10.2    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 6266    M 062   17 01.3   -30 07     6.0x6.0    6.5     Globular Cluster
NGC 6273    M 019   17 02.6   -26 15     6.0x6.0    7.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6402    M 014   17 37.6  -03 15     6.0x6.0    9.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6626    M 028   18 24.6   -24 52     6.0x6.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6715    M 054   18 55.2   -30 28     6.0x6.0    9.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6838    M 071   19 53.7    18 47     6.0x6.0    9.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 7099    M 030   21 40.3   -23 11     6.0x6.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 7793            23 57.9   -32 34     6.0x4.0    9.7     Spiral Galaxy
NGC 1300            03 19.8   -19 24     6.0x3.2    11.3    Barred Spiral b
NGC 6819            19 41.3    40 13     6.0x6.0    10.0    Open Cluster
NGC 3432            10 52.5    36 37     6.2x1.7    10.6    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 3992    M 109   11 57.6    53 22     6.4x3.5    10.9    Barred Spiral b
NGC 0147            00 33.1    48 31     6.5x3.8    12.1    Elliptical galaxy 4
NGC 1982    M 043   05 35.6    05 16     7.0x5.0    8.0     Nebula
NGC 4569    M 090   12 36.8    13 09     7.0x2.5    9.0     Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 4594    M 104   12 39.9   -11 37     7.0x1.5    8.2     Spiral Galaxy a
NGC 6093    M 080   16 17.1   -22 59     7.0x7.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6613    M 018   18 19.9   -17 08     7.0x7.0    8.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6913    M 029   20 24.0    38 31     7.0x7.0    7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 7089    M 002   21 33.5   -00 50     7.0x7.0    6.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6885            20 12.0    26 29     7.0x7.0    5.7     Open Cluster
NGC 2506            08 00.2   -10 47     7.0x7.0    7.6     Open Cluster
NGC 6723            18 59.6   -36 38     7.0x7.0    6.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6997            20 56.5    44 39     7.0x7.0    10.0    Open Cluster
NGC 1904    M 079   05 24.3   -24 31     7.5x7.5    8.4     Globular Cluster
NGC 4826    M 064   12 56.8    21 41     7.5x3.5    8.6     Spiral Galaxy a
NGC 1055            02 41.8    42 21     7.6x3.0    10.6    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 3079            10 02.0    55 41     7.6X1.7    10.6    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 3556    M 108   11 11.6    55 41     7.8x1.4    10.8    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 3623    M 065   11 18.9    13 07     7.8x1.6    10.3    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 5746            14 44.9    01 57     7.9x1.7    10.6    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 0205    M 110   00 40.3    41 41     8.0x3.0    10.8    Elliptical galaxy 6
NGC 0581    M 103   01 33.2    60 42     8.0x8.0    8.0     Open Cluster
NGC 2068    M 078   05 46.8    00 03     8.0x6.0    8.0     Nebula
NGC 3034    M 082   09 56.1    69 42     8.0x3.0    9.2     Irregular Galaxy
NGC 3627    M 066   11 20.2    13 01     8.0x2.5    9.7     Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 6254    M 010   16 57.1   -04 07     8.0x8.0    7.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6341    M 092   17 17.1    43 09     8.0x8.0    6.5     Globular Cluster
NGC 6853    M 027   19 59.6    22 43     8.0x6.0    8.0     Planetary Nebula
NGC 6946            20 35.0    60 08     8.0x8.0    11.1    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 1365            03 33.7   -36 08     8.0x3.5    11.2    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 1502            04 07.4    62 19     8.0x8.0    7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 2627            08 37.3   -29 56     8.0x8.0    9.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6866            20 03.7    44 10     8.0x8.0    8.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6939            20 31.4    60 38     8.0x8.0    10.0    Open Cluster
NGC 4192    M 098   12 13.8    14 54     8.2x2.0    11.0    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 4216            12 15.9    13 09     8.3x2.2    10.0    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 2683            08 52.7    33 25     8.4x2.4    9.7     Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 5897            15 17.4    02 05     8.5x8.5    9.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 0628    M 074   01 36.7    15 47     9.0x9.0    9.0     Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 1097            02 46.4   -30 16     9.0x5.5    10.6    Barred Spiral b
NGC 4590    M 068   12 39.5   -26 45     9.0x9.0    8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 5055    M 063   13 15.7    42 01     9.0x4.0    9.8     Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 6694    M 026   18 45.2   -09 24     9.0x9.0    9.5     Open Cluster
NGC 1857            05 20.1    39 21     9.0x9.0    7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6649            18 33.5   -10 24     9.0x9.0    9.0     Open Cluster
NGC 2818            09 16.0   -36 37     9.0x9.0    11.0    Open Cluster
NGC 7788            23 56.7    61 24     9.0x9.0    9.4     Open Cluster
NGC 4762            12 52.9    11 14     9.1x2.2    10.3    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 1560            04 32.8    71 53     9.2x1.7    11.5    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4517            12 32.8    00 07     9.9x1.4    10.4    Spiral Galaxy c
 

The next group has sizes up to 14 arc minutes. With the 10" f10 this is 820 pixels and thus requires a focal reducer on the 10" or a 10" f6.3 if the ST-7 is used.  The image size is about 470 pixels which still fits on the ST-7 chip.  Here is where the ST-8 chip size is a clear advantage.  Objects at the end of this part of the list can now be imaged nicely on the ST-8 chip or with 35 mm format. The full focal length of the 12" f10 giving a generous image of 12 mm size.  There are 36 objects, 11 of them being M objects.

NGC 0457            01 19.0    58 20     10x10      7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 2023            05 41.7   -02 13     10x10      ?       Nebula
NGC 2323    M 050   07 02.9   -08 20     10x10      6.0     Open Cluster
NGC 2360            07 17.7   -15 38     10x10      9.0     Open Cluster
NGC 4559            12 36.0    27 57     10x3       10.5    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 5024    M 053   13 12.9    18 10     10x10      8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 5194/5  M 051   13 29.9    47 12     10x5       8.1     Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 5236    M 083   13 37.1   -29 52     10x8       8.0     Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 6218    M 012   16 47.2   -01 57     10x10      8.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6531    M 021   18 04.8   -22 30     10x10      7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 7078    M 015   21 30.0    12 10     10x10      6.5     Globular Cluster
NGC 7331            22 37.1    34 26     10x3       10.4    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 7635            23 20.7    61 10     10x5       11.0    Nebula
NGC 0288            00 52.6   -26 36     10x10      7.2     Globular Cluster
NGC 1807            05 10.7    16 32     10x10      7.5     Open Cluster
NGC 6530            18 04.7   -24 20     10x10      6.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6645            18 32.7   -16 54     10x10      9.0     Open Cluster
NGC 4395            12 25.9    33 32     10x8       11.0    Spiral Galaxy
NGC 0663            01 46.0    61 16     11x11      7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 2903            09 32.1    21 31     11x5       9.7     Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 0891            02 22.4    42 41     12x1       12.2    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 1960    M 036   05 36.2    34 09     12x12      6.3     Open Cluster
NGC 3628            11 20.3    13 37     12x2       10.3    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 6705    M 011   18 51.1   -06 16     12x12      6.0     Open Cluster
NGC 7654    M 052   23 24.2    61 36     12x12      7.0     Open Cluster
IC 5146             21 53.5    47 16     12x12      10.0    Nebula
IC 1613             01 04.8    02 07     12x11      9.0     Irregular Galaxy
NGC 1513            04 09.9    49 31     12x12      9.0     Open Cluster
NGC 1893            05 22.6    33 24     12x12      8.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6709            18 51.5    10 21     12x12      8.0     Open Cluster
NGC 5907            15 15.9    56 20     12x2       10.4    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4631            12 42.2    32 33     12x1       9.7     Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4244            12 17.5    37 48     13x1       10.7    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 5904    M 005   15 18.5    02 05     13x13      6.2     Globular Cluster
NGC 0225            00 43.8    61 46     14x14      8.0     Open Cluster
 

For the next set of objects which goes up to 29 arc minutes, the images are 15 mm with the 12" f10, 10 mm with the 10" f10 and 6.6 mm with the 10" f6.3.  These are all good candidates for the ST-8 chip size or possibly for direct 35 mm photography.  The largest of them will not fit on the ST-7 chip even with the 10" f6.3.  There is also the option of using the 0.63 focal reducer on an f10 or f6.3 telescope to extent coverage to somewhat larger objects.  A 1200 mm focal length gives an image for the largest of the objects of 630 pixels. A nice size for the ST-8 chip.  Clearly for these larger objects it is time to consider a good telephoto lens mounted directly on the CCD imager.  This is not only a good, but a necessary solution as we move to imaging the largest objects with a CCD imager.  There are an astonishing 50 objects in this group with 19 of them being M objects.

NGC 0188            00 44.2    85 19     15x15      10.0    Open Cluster
NGC 2682    M 067   08 51.0    11 49     15x15      7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 4565            12 36.4    25 59     15x1       10.5    Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 1817            05 12.1    16 42     15x15      8.0     Open Cluster
NGC 2281            06 49.3    41 04     15x15      6.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6811            19 38.2    46 34     15x15      9.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6809            19 40.1   -30 56     15x15      7.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 2403            07 36.8    65 36     16x10      8.8     Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 7293            22 29.7   -20 51     12x16      6.5     Planetary Nebula
NGC 7790            23 58.4    61 13     17x17      13.0    Open Cluster
NGC 0247            00 47.1   -20 45     18x5       10.7    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 2447    M 093   07 44.5   -23 52     18x18      7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 3031    M 081   09 55.6    69 04     18x10      8.0     Spiral Galaxy a
NGC 5272    M 003   13 42.2    28 23     18x18      6.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6656    M 022   18 36.4   -23 56     18x18      6.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 6888            20 12.5    38 25     18x12      ?       Nebula
NGC 7023            21 02.0    68 10     18x18      ?       Nebula
IC 0342             03 46      68 06     18x17      9.2     Barred Spiral c
NGC 6664            18 36.7   -08 14     18x18      6.0     Open Cluster
NGC 4258    M 106   12 19.0    47 18     19x6       9.0     Spiral Galaxy b
NGC 4656            12 44.0    32 10     19x2       11.0    Irregular Galaxy
NGC 1039    M 034   02 42.0    42 47     20x20      6.0     Open Cluster
NGC 1912    M 038   05 28.7    35 51     20x20      6.2     Open Cluster
NGC 2024            05 41.9   -01 50     20x20      ?       Nebula
NGC 2099    M 037   05 52.3    32 34     20x20      6.2     Open Cluster
NGC 2422    M 047   07 36.6   -14 30     20x20      5.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6121    M 004   16 23.7   -26 31     20x20      7.4     Globular Cluster
NGC 6822            19 44.9   -14 46     20x10      10.0    Irregular Galaxy
NGC 7243            22 15.2    49 53     20x20      8.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6809    M 055   19 40.1   -30 56     20x20      7.0     Globular Cluster
NGC 1435            03 46.2    23 45     15x20      6.8     Nebula
NGC 1245            03 14.6    47 14     20x20      9.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6940            20 34.6    28 18     20x20      8.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6791            19 20.8    37 46     20x20      11.0    Open Cluster
NGC 7789            23 57.0    56 43     20x20      10.0    Open Cluster
NGC 0300            00 55.0   -37 42     21x14      11.3    Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 0253            00 47.6   -25 18     22x6       7.0     Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 4236            12 16.7    69 28     22x5       10.7    Barred Spiral
NGC 5457    M 101   14 03.2    54 21     22x20      9.0     Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 6205    M 013   16 41.7    36 27     23x23      5.7     Globular Cluster
NGC 2437    M 046   07 41.9   -14 49     25x25      8.0     Open Cluster
NGC 2477            07 52.3   -38 33     25x25      7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6405    M 006   17 40.1   -32 13     25x25      6.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6494    M 023   17 56.9   -19 01     25x25      7.0     Open Cluster
NGC 6611    M 016   18 18.8   -13 47     25x25      6.5     Nebula
NGC 1528            04 15.2    51 15     25x25      6.0     Open Cluster
NGC 2546            08 12.4   -37 38     25x25      8.0     Open Cluster
NGC 2264            06 41.2    09 53     15x26      5.0     Open Cluster
NGC 0281            00 53.3    56 35     23x27      8.0     Nebula
NGC 6514    M 020   18 01.9   -23 02     29x27      8.5     Nebula
 

For the next group of objects, up to 60 arc minutes in size, one must use telescopes with reducers even for 35 mm photography and medium telephoto lenses for CCD chips.  There are only 19 objects in this group with 8 being M objects. It is an important group of  bright objects of great interest.  These objects, because of their size, have great detail and are the focal point of many photographic and imaging techniques.  We might note for reference that the moon and sun are about 30 arc minutes, right between this group and the one above.

NGC 2168    M 035   06 08.8    24 20     30x30      5.5     Open Cluster
NGC 2287    M 041   06 47.0   -20 45     30x30      6.0     Open Cluster
NGC 7092    M 039   21 32.2    48 26     30x30      5.0     Open Cluster
IC 0405             05 16.2    34 16     30x19      6.0     Nebula
NGC 0869            02 19.0    57 09     35x35      4.4     Open Cluster
NGC 0884            02 22.4    57 07     35x35      4.7     Open Cluster
NGC 6634    M 025   18 31.7   -19 15     35x35      6.0     Open  Cluster
NGC 0055            00 15     -39 13     25x40      7.8     Irregular galaxy
NGC 2244            06 32.4    04 52     40x40      5.5     Open Cluster
NGC 2548    M 048   08 13.7   -05 47     40x40      5.5     Open Cluster
NGC 1647            04 46.1    19 05     40x40      6.5     Open Cluster
NGC 1977            05 35.5   -04 52     40x25      7.0     Nebula
NGC 2174            06 09.7    20 30     40x30      ?       Nebula
NGC 0752            01 57.8    37 41     45x45      7.5     Open Cluster
NGC 6618    M 017   18 20.9   -16 11     45x35      6.0     Nebula
NGC 1746            05 03.6    23 48     45x45      6.0     Open Cluster
Sh2-155             22 56.8    62 37     50x10      7.7     Nebula
NGC 0598    M 033   01 33.9    30 39     60x60      5.3     Spiral Galaxy c
NGC 6475    M 007   17 54.0   -34 49     60x60      5.0     Open Cluster
 

The final group of objects are definitely 35 mm candidates but can be imaged with a CCD chip if an appropriate focal length telephoto lens is used.  For example, a 400 mm telephoto lens will fit objects of 60 arc minutes on the ST-8 chip. This group holds the really giant objects, those well over 1 degree in size.  To fit M 31 on an ST-8 chip requires a focal length of only 180 to 200 mm.   There are only 12 objects in the giant object group but 6 are well known M objects.

NGC 1976    M 042   05 35.4   -05 23     65x65      4.0     Nebula
NGC 6960            20 45.7    30 43     70x6       8.0     Nebula
NGC 6992-5          20 56.4    31 42     78x8       8.0     Nebula
NGC 2237-9          06 32.3    05 03     60x80      9.0     Nebula
NGC 2632    M 044   08 40.4    19 41     80x80      4.5     Open Cluster
NGC 6523    M 008   18 04.7   -24 20     80x40      5.0     Nebula
NGC 6603    M 024   18 18.4   -18 26     60x90      4.5     Open Cluster
            M 045   03 46.9    24 07     100x100    1.4     Open Cluster
NGC 7000            20 58.8    44 20     100x100    5.0     Nebula
NGC 1499            04 3.4     36 25     145x40     6.0     Nebula
NGC 0224    M 031   00 42.7    41 16     150x50     4.0     Spiral galaxy b
IC 1396             21 39.1    57 30     140x170            Nebula
 

As I review this list, I wonder at the great variety and size of the non-stellar objects in the sky.  Looking at the distribution of the Messier objects among them I wonder at how Messier saw some of them at all and how he missed others.  It is a wondrous list.  The list also demonstrates the difficulty of imaging all of them with a single telescope or camera.  Just on the basis of size, it becomes clear that one selection of optics or one imager will not capture all of them equally well.  In fact the range is so great that if imaging is a goal, the selection of the base telescope will have to be adjusted to cover with facility the range of objects of greatest interest.

In the following example, covered in some depth, I assume that an ST-7 sized chip is used and a 10" f6.3 telescope is chosen as the basic optic.  The 10" f6.3 telescope has a focal length of 1600 mm.  If one assumes that this can be extended or reduced with adapters from a 2X Barlow to a 0.50 field reducer,  the focal lengths and speeds become, 3200 f12.6 to 800 mm f3.2  That range is probably a bit optimistic if one expects to maintain optical quality.  But a range of 2200 mm f8.8 to 1000 mm f4.0 is possible with reasonably good image quality.  Considering now that one wants to fill the chip with the 1000 mm focal length and have an image no smaller than about 100 pixels at 2200 mm, it is possible to image a range of objects from 20 arc minutes down to 1.5 arc minutes.  This setup, with the criteria stated, encompasses 236 of the objects and 84 of the Messier objects.  Left out are the 31 (4M) very smallest objects and the 46 (M21) very largest.  The range of objects can be shifted upward in size by using the ST-8 chips size.

For the very smallest objects one has to go to a longer focal length.  This could be accomplished with a 12" f10 (fl = 3000 mm) or with the 10" f6.3 with a 2X field expander (Barlow) (3200 mm).  It is hard to magnify the smallest objects much more because of atmospheric seeing limitations that are around 1 arc second.  For the very largest objects, a good telephoto lens is quite suitable.   Focal lengths of 400 to 500 mm at f2.8 are not uncommon.  The 500 mm lens is good for objects of 40 arc minutes size and smaller and a 200 mm lens will take in objects of 100 arc minutes on the ST-7 size chip.  Thus the large objects can be taken care of with a set of telephoto lenses.  The telescope is needed to reach down to the smaller objects while retaining reasonable light gathering power.

I have  not held really tight specifications on my criteria for "filling the chip."  The reasoning is that there are a variety of chip sizes, pixel sizes and exact dimensions for the chips which might be used.  I currently use the ST-7 and ST-8 which have the Kodak 0400 and 1600 chips respectively.  It is rectangular so if you consider an image which is sort of oval, you might get it on the chip by rotating the imager to fit the long side to the long axis of the object.  I do not like to rotate the imager and the focal length steps are rather large in any case.  So, I simply assumed an equivalent circular image and an approximate fit of the image to the chip.  You may want to adjust the ranges a bit to fit your idea of  how tightly you want to fit the image to the chip.  I think the list gives the general concept of how to proceed.  Now that I have the ST-8 I use it almost exclusively since I get the same resolution as the ST-7 and four times the imaging area.

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